12.06.18

Harry Lloyd Talks Season 2 Of STARZ's "Counterpart"

At the Office of Interchange, those who have high enough access, safeguard a crossing into a parallel dimension not unlike our own. And if their world is like ours, who are we over there? Are we better? Are we different? Season 2 of "Counterpart" finds Howard and his counterpart getting to live out these questions. With the Crossing closed and each of them stranded in the other’s world, they have to adapt for survival. Howard Prime takes on his other’s life: going to his job, living in his home…with his wife. Howard Alpha is locked in a mysterious black site known as Echo, cut off from everyone he knows. As a cold war escalates between worlds and deepens a fickle divide, both men find themselves growing increasingly like the other. Star Harry Lloyd joined BUILD to discuss his role as Peter Quayle on the STARZ series.

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>>> HELLO, WORLD! WHAT IS UP? WELCOME TO "BUILD." I'M YOUR HOST, MATT FORTE AND WE ARE LIVE HERE AT THE BUILD STUDIOS IN NEW YORK CITY. "COUNTERPART" RETURNS THIS SUNDAY FOR THE SECOND SEASON. THIS SHOW IS AWESOME! THE SCI-FI THRILLER YOU NEVER REALLY ONCE STUMBLE OVER THE IDEA OF THERE BEING AN ALTERNATE, PARALLEL EARTH. SEASON TWO, THE CROSS SOMETHING CLOSED. LOTS OF QUESTIONS ARE BEING ASKED AND THINGS ARE GETTING INTENSE. HERE TO HELP SORT IT ALL OUT AND TELL ME WHAT IT'S LIKE WORKING WITH NOT ONE BUT TWO JK SIMMONSES -- THERE WE GO. THE GREAT HARRY LLOYD IS IN THE BUILDING. MAKE SOME NOISE FOR HARRY. YOU'RE UP! SO EXCITED HE'S HERE. WE'LL BRING HIM OUT IN JUST A SECOND. BEFORE WE DO, I BELIEVE WE HAVE A QUICK LOOK AT SEASON TWO. SO, LET'S GO AHEAD AND RUN THAT CLIP.

>> WHAT DOES SHE WANT FROM YOU?

>> FIND LAB BEAR.

>> IT'S MOST IMPORTANT.

>> TRUST ME, IT WILL BUY US SOME TIME.

>> I KNOW.

>> WHY NOT?

>> I CAN'T.

>> BECAUSE LOVE BEAR HAS SOMETHING ON YOUR WIFE AND YOU'RE THE ONE WHO HAS BEEN TIPPING HIM OFF?

>> HOW EXTRAORDINARILY COMPLICATED.

>> I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S MORE PATHETIC, THE GUY WHO DOESN'T KNOW HE'S A DUPE OR THE GUY WHO KNOWS IT GOES ALONG WITH IT.

>> I NEED TO EARN THEIR TRUST SO I CAN FIND OUT WHAT PEOPLE ARE GOING TO DO NEXT. HOW IS YOUR WIFE, BY THE WAY? I THINK SHE'S BEEN DISCHARGED. SHE PROBABLY KNOWS ALL THEY'RE GOING TO DO AS WELL.

>> TAKE CARE OF THIS.

>> OH, MAN. LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, MAKE SOME NOISE. THE GREAT HARRY LLOYD IS RIGHT HERE. LET'S DO IT UP. COME ON! THERE HE IS. THIS SHOW, I SAID IT BEFORE AND I'LL SAY IT AGAIN -- I'LL SAY IT A BUNCH OF TIMES -- KICKS ASS. IT'S SO GOOD. CONGRATULATIONS. SEASON TWO, THAT'S FANTASTIC. VERY EXCITING TIMES. I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO TALKING TO YOU ALL ABOUT IT. HOW IS LIFE? HOW IS PRESS GOING? HOW IS HARRY RIGHT NOW?

>> HARRY'S DOING FINE. HE ENJOYS BEING IN NEW YORK. YEAH. WE WERE JUST IN FOR THE SEASON TWO PREMIER MONDAY NIGHT WHICH WENT DOWN REALLY WELL.

>> IT'S GOT TO BE DIFFERENT.

>> IT'S A SHOW THAT, OBVIOUSLY, IT'S GREAT IF YOU CAN WORK TV ON A HUGE SCREEN. THE DETAIL, THE SOUND. I NOTICE THINGS NOW. IT'S GETTING REALLY COMPLICATED, ALL THE LITTLE DECISIONS THEY MAKE IN POST REALLY PAYS YOU BACK WHEN YOU WATCH IT IN CINEMA.

>> OH, IT'S ON A LARGER SCREEN SO YOU CAN NOTICE LITTLE DETAILS VISUALLY BUT EVERYTHING IN THERE IS LARGER THAN LIFE WHEN YOU SEE IT IN A THEATER LIKE THAT, INCLUDING THE SOUND. YOU GET TO HEAR THE DESIGN AND EVERYTHING THAT GOES INTO ALL THOSE DETAILS.

>> IT'S LIKE YOU WERE SAYING BEFORE, AND THE FACT THAT IT'S A SCI-FI SHOW BUT THE IDEA OF IT IS THAT YOU FORGET. THE ONE SCIENCE FICTION ASPECT IS THAT THE WORLD GOT COPIED AND THEN JUST -- THEN LIVE WITH IT. PUT THAT ASIDE FOR ONE SECOND AND GO WITH IT AND ALL THE DETAILS IN TERMS OF ALL THE PERFORMANCES. IT'S ALL JUST ABOUT HELPING SELL IT.

>> EVERYONE IS GIVING IT 110%. I WAS READING -- I FORGET WHICH ARTICLE POINTED IT OUT. I DIDN'T EVEN CATCH THIS BUT EVEN THE LIGHTING -- I DON'T MEAN THE LIGHTING ON THE SET BUT THE PHYSICAL LIGHTING IN THE WORLD. LIKE THEIR LAMPS ARE DIFFERENT FROM ALPHA AND PRIME WORLDS. THERE'S LITTLE DETAILS.

>> SOMEONE TOLD ME AFTER SEASON ONE. I SPOKE TO THE DESIGNER AND HE WAS LIKE, OF COURSE. WE HAVE HALOGEN BULBS ON THE OTHER SIDE AND NORMAL BULBS HERE. I WAS LIKE, THAT'S THE KIND OF STUFF YOU'RE DOING.

>> OF COURSE YOU DO AND HOW SILLY OF ME. IT'S SO COOL TO SEE THAT LEVEL OF CARE AND ATTENTION TO DETAIL ESPECIALLY, YOU KNOW, ON TELEVISION. ALL RIGHT. LET'S DIAL IT BACK A NOTCH. YOU'RE NO STRANGER TO HIGH CONCEPT GENRE. YOU'VE DONE A LOT OF FUN STUFF BEFORE. HOW DID YOU GET INVOLVED IN THIS SHOW? HOW DID THIS COME TO PAST?

>> I READ THE SCRIPT FOR THE FIRST EPISODE OF "COUNTERPART" A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO, BACK IN DONE. I'VE BEEN THIS AMERICA, THINKING I'M GOING TO WORK IN ENGLAND A BIT. MY FURNITURE HAS JUST ARRIVED BACK IN LONDON AND I READ THE SCRIPT AND I WAS LIKE, OH, NO. THIS IS REALLY GOOD. AND THEN I MADE A TAPE WITH MY LITTLE BROTHER, WHO -- THANK YOU VERY MUCH, TOM -- HELPED ME GET THE PART.

>> TOM IS A BIG FAN OF THE SHOW. I DON'T KNOW IF HE TOLD YOU THAT. HE'S WATCHING RIGHT NOW.

>> OH.

>> HE'S WATCHING RIGHT NOW. SO, THANK YOU.

>> HEY, BRO. SENT IN THE TAPE. THEY REALLY WANTED ME TO COME OVER AND MEET. I WAS DOING A PLAY, SO I COULDN'T. SO I DID ANOTHER TAPE AND I GOT TO SKYPE WITH JUSTIN, THE CREATOR, AND HE TOLD ME ALL ABOUT SEASON ONE. HE TOLD ME ALL ABOUT THE BIG TWIST FOR QUAYLE IN SEASON ONE. HE HAD IT ALL MAPPED OUT. FROM THE MOMENT I READ IT, FRANKLY, I SAID THIS IS SOMETHING I WANT TO BE INVOLVED IN.

>> HE TOLD YOU IN THIS WORLD WHERE SECRECY HAS BECOME SUCH -- SPOILER CULTURES BECOME SUCH A BIG THING, HE WAS TELLING YOU RIGHT FROM DAY ONE, HERE IS THE FULL STORY. WE'VE WRITTEN THIS OUT. HOW FAR AHEAD DOES HE LET YOU SEE?

>> SEASON ONE BECAUSE IT'S BEEN SO LONG TIME DEVELOPING IT, HE HAD BASICALLY HAD TEN EPISODES WRITTEN BEFORE WE STARTED. I GOT TO SEE A SCRIPT, I THINK, FOR EPISODE SEVEN BEFORE I EVEN SIGNED ON. WHEN YOU'RE SIGNING ON FOR POTENTIALLY SEVEN YEARS OF YOUR LIFE IS LOVELY. SO OFTEN YOU GET A SCRIPT AND GO ON THAT AND HOPEFULLY THE REST OF IT LIVES UP TO IT. I FELT SO CONFIDENT IN IT, BECAUSE HE KNEW WHAT HE WAS DOING.

>> THAT'S PRETTY AMAZING. I WAS GOING TO DRAW A PARALLEL BETWEEN THAT AND YOUR WORK WHEN YOU WERE ON "GAME OF THRONES" BUT YOU WERE IN SEASON ONE. I DON'T KNOW IF SPOILER CULTURE WAS THE SAME BACK THEN. YOU HAD THE BOOKS. SO EVERYONE KIND OF ALREADY KNEW WHAT WAS GOING TO HAPPEN.

>> WITH "GAME OF THRONES" I HAD THIS AUDITION A FEW DAYS LATER. I DIDN'T HAVE TIME TO READ THE BOOKS. I READ THE PILOT AND THOUGHT THIS IS PHENOMENAL. I WIKIPEDIAD MY CHARACTER, NASTY BROTHER OF DENARYS WHO GETS KILLED WITH GOLD. THAT SOUNDS LIKE A FUN CHARACTER. AGAIN, I KNEW FROM THE START THAT WAS THE DEAL.

>> WHEN THAT NASTY BROTHER KILLED WITH GOLD, GOT IT. EVERYTHING I NEED RIGHT HERE. GOT IT. COME BACK TO THIS FOR A SECOND. WAS THERE ANY SENSE WHEN YOU WERE DOING THAT THAT YOU WOULD BECOME PART OF ONE OF THE BIGGEST SHOWS IN TELEVISION?

>> NO. I WAS EXCITED THAT THEY WERE MAKING IT WITH THE GEEKY DETAIL THEY WERE MAKING IT AND WITH THE SCALE THEY WERE MAKING IT. I DON'T KNOW IF ANYONE IS GOING TO FOLLOW THIS, IF EVERYONE CAN FOLLOW IT, BUT FOR THE HANDFUL OF PEOPLE WHO ARE GOING TO CHECK OUT THIS LITTLE SHOW I THINK THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE A GREAT TIME. AND IN A WAY IT MADE ME VERY -- I WAS KIND OF INSPIRED BY THE FACT THAT IT DID BECOME SO POPULAR AND IT NEVER COMPROMISED HOW COMPLEX THE CHARACTERS OR STORY LINES ARE, AND NEVER VARIED FROM THE BOOKS. THEY KEPT IT INTENSE AND PEOPLE HAVE FOLLOWED IT. THEY'VE MORE THAN FOLLOWED IT. THEY'VE CHAMPIONED IT.

>> HAVE YOU KEPT UP WITH IT? HAVE YOU BEEN WATCHING SINCE YOU LEFT THE SHOW?

>> YEAH. IT'S GREAT. ESPECIALLY SINCE THE BOOK SBTS TV KIND OF DIVERGED, I'M LIKE EVERYONE ELSE, WAITING.

>> WE WERE LAMENTING, WE REALIZED JASON MIMOA WAS HERE A DAY AGO FOR "AQUAMAN." WE WERE LIKE, OH, ONLY IF THEY WERE HERE. DO YOU KEEP UP? DO YOU CROSS PATHS?

>> I BUMPED INTO VICTOR MADDEN, WHO I HADN'T SEEN FOR A WHILE, AT SOMETHING A FEW MONTHS AGO. WHICH WAS REALLY FUN. I HAVEN'T SEEN JAEVEN JASON FOR AGES. HIS HUGS ARE DANGEROUS. IF I BUMPED HIM BEFORE I WOULD BE BRUISED.

>> THAT MAN DOES GIVE DANGEROUS HUGS, 100%. WE TALKED ABOUT HOW THIS SHOW -- PART OF THE FUN IS, AND WHY IT WORKS IS BECAUSE OF HOW GROUNDED IT IS. I WAS CURIOUS, CAN YOU TALK ABOUT WHAT YOU FEEL A RESPONSIBILITY AS AN ACTOR TO HELP ACHIEVE THAT LEVEL OF GROUNDEDNESS, TO HELP MAKE IT FEEL REAL? THERE'S A GREAT SCENE IN SEASON ONE, THE BIRTHDAY, WHERE YOU CONFRONT CLAIRE AND YOU HAVE THIS CRAZY ARGUMENT. I'M TRYING NOT TO REVEAL ANYTHING IMPORTANT FOR PEOPLE WHO HAVEN'T SEEN SEASON ONE HERE. HOW CREATIVE DO YOU GET TO BE IN A SEASON LIKE THAT WHERE IT'S SUCH AN OUTLANDISH SCENARIO? IT'S SO SCI-FI. I GUESS WHEN YOU BREAK IT DOWN. YOU SEE THAT SCENE. THIS IS HOW I HAVE TO RESPOND AT THIS MOMENT IN TIME, I HAVE TO HAVE THIS FIGHT, THIS CONFRONTATION. HOW DO YOU FIND YOUR WAY TO THE REALITY OF THAT?

>> SURE. I MEAN, IN TERMS OF PETER AND HIS WIFE, CLAIRE, THE REALITY OF THE SITUATION IS SOMETHING THAT'S QUITE HARD TO RELATE TO, BEARING IN MIND. SPOILER ALERT. THE WOMAN YOU MARRIED IS NOT THE WOMAN YOU MARRIED.

>> EXACTLY.

>> AND HAS BEEN IMPERSONATING HER FOR FIVE YEARS AND YOU HAD A CHILD WITH THIS ACTRESS, SPY. SO REAL-LIFE COMPARISON IS PORTRAYAL, THE IDEA THAT YOU'VE BEEN CHEATED ON. IT COMES FROM THE WRITING. YOU HAVE TO BE AS DETAILED AS POSSIBLE. YOU WORK OUT YOUR BACKSTORY. WE HAVE A MEETING, ME AND THE ACTRESS PLAYING CLAIRE SAT DOWN WITH JUSTIN AND THEY MET THIS YEAR. WE PIECED TOGETHER A FULLBACKSTORY AS YOU WOULD EVEN IF YOU WERE REHEARSING A PLAY AND EVEN PETER DOESN'T KNOW THAT. ONE THING WE CHANGED FOR THAT BIRTHDAY PARTY SCENE, FOR EXAMPLE. IN THE SPEECH WHERE HE'S TRYING TO OUT HER. HE'S NOW FOUND OUT WHO SHE REALLY IS AND HE CAN'T LET IT ON AND IS SAYING, CLAIRE, DO YOU REMEMBER THIS, DO YOU REMEMBER THAT? HE'S TESTING HER. WE CHANGED THE ORDER OF THE CONVERSATIONS AFTER THIS QUESTION WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE HE'S GOING TO START WITH A QUESTION ABOUT THAT BIRTHDAY. OH, SHE KNOWS ABOUT THAT. MAYBE HE'LL ASK ABOUT THAT RUGBY MATCH TO SEE HOW FAR BACK IT'S BEEN HER AND HE CAN'T CATCH HER OUT WITH ANYTHING. AND THEN IT MAKES HIM THINK DID I EVER MEET THE OTHER CLAIRE? IN TERMS OF KEEPING RIDICULOUS SITUATIONS REAL IT'S ALL ABOUT DETAIL AND A BIT OF HOMEWORK.

>> WHAT KIND OF HOMEWORK GOING INTO SEASON TWO? I IMAGINE SEASON ONE THERE WAS A LOT OF WORLD BUILDING AND SETTING UP THE SPACE. WE'RE STILL ADDING ON TO THAT IN SEASON TWO, BASED ON WHAT I'VE GOTTEN TO SEE. SEASON ONE, THAT WAS THE JOB. YOU HAVE TO TELL EVERYONE ABOUT THIS WORLD, GET THEM BOUGHT INTO IT. COMING INTO SEASON TWO, DO YOU EXHALE A LITTLE BIT? YOU'RE EXPLORING MORE OF THE DRAMA NOW? IS THERE A DIFFERENT VIBE COMING INTO IT?

>> IN SOME WAYS, YEAH, BUT IN TERMS OF THE GUY I'M PLAYING, HE CANNOT TAKE A BREATH. HE IS IN DEEP DOO-DOO. AND HE -- IN TERMS OF PREPARATION FOR THIS SEASON, ACTUALLY, I MADE A POINT OF GETTING MY HEAD AROUND THE FULL STORY BUT VERY MUCH TRYING TO PLAY EACH INDIVIDUAL SCENE QUITE SEPARATELY BECAUSE HE HAS TO BE SOMEONE DIFFERENT NOW WITH ALMOST EVERYONE HE HAS SCENES WITH. THE NEW CHARACTER BETTY PLAYS, SCENES WITH HIS WIFE AND NONE OF THEM GET THE SAME TRUTH AS THE NEXT PERSON. IN A WAY HE'S EVERY SCENE IS JUST SURVIVING AND RUNNING AND SAYING WHAT HE NEEDS TO SAY AND HOPEFULLY NOT GIVING ANYTHING AWAY AND THE AUDIENCE MAYBE WILL PICK UP ON HIS DISCOMFORT. BUT HIS JOB IS TO GET BY IT, BECAUSE HE'S TRYING TO PLAY BOTH SIDES AND EVEN HE HIMSELF KNOWS THAT'S NOT GOING TO LAST LONG.

>> IT'S FASCINATING TO WATCH. JK HAS THE LUXURY OF GETTING TWO DIFFERENT PEOPLE TO PLAY TWO DIFFERENT SIDES. I WANT TO GET INTO THAT IN A SECOND. YOU CAN'T REVEAL IF WE'RE GOING TO SEE PETER'S OTHER OR NOT BUT IN SEASON ONE IT'S KNOWN THAT WE DON'T. WERE YOU BUMED AT ALL THAT YOU DIDN'T GET TO DO THAT IN SEASON ONE, THAT YOU DIDN'T GET TO CONFRONT YOURSELF OR HAVE A MOMENT WITH YOURSELF?

>> THERE WAS ENOUGH GOING ON FOR PETER IN SEASON ONE THAT I WAS QUITE HAPPY TO NOT GO THERE, NOT GO DOWN THAT ROAD. THE THING WE WERE ALL TOLD VERY EARLY ON IN THE SAME MEETING BEFORE WE DID THE FIRST READ THROUGH, WE SAT DOWN THE TABLE IN L.A. IN LATE 2016, I GUESS, AND HE TOLD -- AND JUSTIN, THE CREATOR, GAVE US THIS DOCUMENT ABOUT THESE ARE THE DETAILS OF PASSPORT CONTROL, THE CROSSING. AND BUILD THIS WHOLE -- REDACTED DOCUMENT AND THEN HE TOLD US ABOUT THE ORIGIN OF THE CROSSING AND SAID WE'RE NOT NECESSARILY GOING TO MEET ALL OF YOUR OTHERS RIGHT NOW, BUT YOU WILL HAVE ONE. AND IF YOU WANT, I'LL TELL YOU A BIT ABOUT THEM EVEN IF THE AUDIENCE MAY OR MAY NOT MEET THEM NOW OR LATER. SO I DO KNOW ABOUT CLAIRE'S OTHER. I KNOW WHO HE IS. WHETHER YOU GET TO MEET HIM ANY TIME SOON I'M NOT ALLOWED TO SAY.

>> DOES THAT INFORM, THEN, DECISIONS THAT YOU MAKE ABOUT YOUR -- WOULD IT BE YOUR PRIME OR ALPHA?

>> ALPHA.

>> YOUR ALPHA VERSION, YEAH.

>> WEIRDLY I THOUGHT ABOUT IT. HE DOESN'T KNOW ABOUT HIM SO THAT SHOULDN'T CHANGE WHAT I'M DOING. I JUST NEED TO SELL THIS GUY'S PATH AND HOPEFULLY THE CONTRASTS AND SIMILARITIES IS SOMETHING THAT THE AUDIENCE CAN GET ONCE YOU ZOOM OUT A LITTLE BIT.

>> WHAT WAS IT LIKE WORKING WITH JK ON THIS, DOING THOSE SCENES WHERE HE HAD TO BE THE ALPHA AND THE PRIME?

>> SEASON ONE, THAT'S WHEN I HAD SCENES WITH BOTH OF THEM, WHICH I WAS REALLY WORRIED ABOUT. BUT IT WAS ACTUALLY REALLY SIMPLE. ONCE WE FIGURED OUT THE TECHNOLOGY, HOW IT WORKS WITH CAMERA AND JK WOULD LIKE TO SHOOT ONE OF THEM FIRST. OFTEN PRIME FIRST. DEPENDING ON WHO HAD THE MOST MEAT IN THE SCENE, HE LIKED TO DO THAT ONE FIRST RATHER THAN GOING BACK AND FORTH AND CHANGING CONSTANTLY. SHOOT THAT GUY OUT. THEN WE END UP WITH THE MASTER, THE SHOT THEY'RE BOTH IN. HE GOES INTO THE COVERAGE OF THE OTHER GUY AND HE HAS HIS STAND-IN IS JOHN FUNK, BRILLIANT ACTOR, WHO KNOWS THE LINES FOR BOTH OF THEM, DOES ALL THE REHEARSALS, SEES WHAT JK DOES IN THE REHEARSALS FOR EACH OF THEM AND PLAYS THE OTHER GUY. JOHN IS REALLY GOOD AND JK IS VERY CLEAR ON WHAT HE WANTS TO DO. SO YOU CAN STILL THROW IT AROUND AND PLAY WITH IT.

>> SO ARE YOU RUNNING IT FOR BOTH VERSIONS FOR ALPHA AND PRIME?

>> YEAH. IT'S ALL ME. I DON'T GET A STAND-IN. I'M DOING IT FOR BOTH OF THEM. YEAH, THEN YOU MARRY THE FOOTAGE TOGETHER. IT WAS ACTUALLY REALLY STRAIGHTFORWARD.

>> IT SOUNDS LIKE A SMOOTH PROCESS. WAS THERE AN EXTRA REHEARSAL ON THIS PROJECT THAN PROJECTS IN THE PAST?

>> YEAH. I THINK STARTING OUT ESPECIALLY, THEY WERE KEEN TO MAKE SURE THAT NOT ONLY CAN YOU SELL THIS AND IT'S REALISTIC BUT ALSO THAT YOU DON'T DRAW ATTENTION TO IT. SOME OF MY FAVORITE SCENES IS JUST IN EPISODE ONE SEASON ONE YOU HAVE THAT NICE LONG SCENE BETWEEN THE TWO HOWARDS AND THERE ARE DIFFERENT THINGS, OVER-THE-SHOULDER BITS. THEY WANTED TO KIND OF DO IT SO YOU DON'T REALLY THINK ABOUT IT. YOU'RE NOT LOOKING FOR THE SPECIAL EFFECT. YOU CAN START TO UNDERSTAND THESE AS TWO SEPARATE CHARACTERS BUT THE SAME PERSON. I THINK THEY DID A PRETTY GOOD JOB ON THAT.

>> FOR SURE. IN JUST A MINUTE, I'M GETTING THE SIGNAL, WE'VE GOT A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS FROM THE AUDIENCE. WE'LL TURN OVER TO THOSE. FIRST, LITTLE BIT OF TRIVIA. I SAW SOMETHING ON THE INTERNET, WHICH MEANS IT'S TRUE. AND YOU CAN CONFIRM OR DENY THIS. IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S ACCURATE HERE. YOU ARE, INDEED, THE GREAT, GREAT, GREAT GRANDSON OF CHARLES DICKENS. IS THAT A FACT? IS THAT TRUE?

>> THAT IS A FACT.

>> OKAY. FIRST OF ALL --

>> AS FAR AS I KNOW.

>> COOL. SECOND OF ALL -- SECOND OF ALL --

>> YEAH.

>> THAT BEING SAID, I HAD TO COME UP WITH SOME -- I COULDN'T JUST BRING THAT UP. I HAD TO JUSTIFY ME BRINGING IT UP, MY OWN CURIOSITY HERE. HOLIDAY SEASON APPROACHING. IS THERE AN EXTRA PRESSURE IN YOUR HOUSEHOLD TO LIVE UP TO THE LEGACY OF YOUR GREAT-GREAT GRANDFATHER OR DO YOU AVOID CHRISTMAS BECAUSE OF IT? HOW HAS IT IMPACTED YOUR DECISION AS AN INDIVIDUAL AROUND THIS TIME OF YEAR, HAVING THAT KIND OF -- THAT LINEAGE?

>> WOW, YEAH, I'VE NEVER BEEN ASKED THAT. I DON'T KNOW. I LOVE CHRISTMAS. I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S BECAUSE OF OLD CHUCKIE D LOOKING DOWN ON ME.

>> CHUCKIE D.

>> OR WHETHER IT'S A GOOD TIME OF YEAR. WEIRDLY, I BUMPED INTO MY COUSIN AT THE AIRPORT, FLYING OVER HERE, OLLIE DICKENS. WHAT ARE YOU DOING IN HEATHROW? I'M OFF TO GALVESTON, TEXAS, AND THEY OFTEN GET A MEMBER OF MY FAMILY -- THIS YEAR IT'S HIM. I SAID LOVELY, MY COUSIN, IN HIS EARLY 20s. HE WILL GET DRESSED UP, DO READINGS AND BE HERALDED AS -- RIGHT NOW IN A HORSE AND CART SOMEWHERE IN TEXAS. THERE'S ALL KINDS OF FUN. WE HAVE GREAT FAMILY DINNERS OFTEN AND MY UNCLE, WHO TURNS OUT A NEWSLETTER, AND THERE'S A FAMILY TREE -- BEST THING ABOUT IT, I KNOW LOADS OF MY COUSINS THAT I WOULDN'T OTHERWISE. WE DON'T TALK ABOUT DICKENS, FRANKLY BUT WE GET TOGETHER NOW AND THEN.

>> CAN YOU IMAGINE YOUR UNCLE STRESSING OVER WRITING THE FAMILY NEWSLETTER FOR THE DICKENS FAMILY?

>> THE PRESSURE IS HIGH.

>> A BAR HAS BEEN SET.

>> IF YOU HAVE ENOUGH NEWS TO GET IN THERE, YOU SCROLL DOWN. HARRY IS ABOUT TO APPEAR IN AN MTV SHOW. I'M LIKE, YES. SO THE FAMILY IS WATCHING.

>> FANTASTIC. CONGRATULATIONS AGAIN, SEASON TWO. THIS SHOW, I CAN'T SAY ENOUGH GOOD THINGS ABOUT IT. SECOND SEASON PREMIERS SUNDAY ON STARZ AT 9:00. YOU CAN ALSO GET IT IN -- STARZ HAS THE APP. AMAZON PRIME, ADD STARZ. A TRILLION WAYS TO WATCH THE SHOW. YOU ABSOLUTELY SHOULD. IT'S ONE OF THE BEST SHOWS ON TELEVISION. THAT SAID A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS. FIRST ONE IS GOING TO BE RIGHT OVER HERE. GO FOR IT.

>> HI.

>> HI.

>> SO YOU'VE DONE A LOT OF DIFFERENT ROLES IN BOTH KIND OF REALISTIC ROLES AND ALSO THESE MORE SCI-FI, FANTASY ROLES. AS AN ACTOR I WONDER IF YOU PREFER -- WHICH KIND OF WORLDS DO YOU PREFER TO OCCUPY, IF ANY?

>> I THINK WHAT I REALLY ENJOY DOING IS IN A SHOW LIKE THIS, YOU GET TO COMBINE IT WHEN YOU HAVE SOME RIDICULOUS PREMISE AND YOU HAVE TO SELL IT AND YOU HAVE THE HELP FROM A GREAT TEAM WRITING AND EVERYTHING, THAT THEY REALLY CARE ABOUT THESE KIND OF DETAILS. WHEN THE WORLD ITSELF IS SLIGHTLY REMOVED FROM OURS AND YOU HAVE MORE FLEXIBILITY IN TERMS OF REALITY, I QUITE LIKE HAVING BOTH THOSE THINGS TOGETHER, I THINK. YEAH.

>> GREAT QUESTION. THANK YOU. NEXT ONE IS COMING FROM RIGHT OVER ON OUR GREEN COUCH.

>> HI. SINCE THE SHOW IS ABOUT SOMEBODY MEETING THEIR OTHER UNIVERSE PERSON, OTHER DOPPLEGANGER FROM ANOTHER UNIVERSE, I WAS WONDERING IF YOU HAD A CHANCE TO ENCOUNTER YOURS IF ONE EXISTED, WOULD THEY BE CONSIDERED YOUR ENEMY OR YOUR FRIEND?

>> I THINK I WOULD START OFF THINKING, WOW, THIS IS MY BEST FRIEND AND THEN I WOULD GET TO KNOW THE GUY AND REALIZE HE'S PROBABLY MY ENEMY. SO I THINK SEASON TWO DEFINITELY IS -- JUSTIN, WE HAD DINNER THE OTHER NIGHT AND JUSTIN WAS SAYING HE THINKS -- HE ONLY REALIZED JUST NOW THAT THE THEME FOR SEASON TWO IS THE FACT THAT THIS IS WAR AND YOU'VE GOT TO PICK A SIDE. YOU CAN'T PRETEND THAT THESE CAN COEXIST. SO I THINK I WOULD PROBABLY TURN UP AND MEET MY OTHER WITH HIGH SPECULATIONS AND BE THOROUGHLY DISAPPOINTED, WOULD TRY NOT TO KILL HIM BUT WE'LL SEE HOW IT GOES.

>> YOU HAVE TO SET THE BAR A LITTLE HIGHER THAN TRY NOT TO KILL HIM.

>> WE WOULD TRY AND LIVE SEPARATELY. MAYBE TEXT NOW AND THEN BUT I DON'T THINK WE WOULD BE FULL-ON BUDDIES.

>> WITHIN THE FIRST 24 HOURS, YOU DON'T THINK YOU WOULD PLAY SOME HILARIOUS PRACTICAL JOKE SOMEWHERE? YOU HAVE A TWIN. YOU'VE NEVER HAD THIS BEFORE.

>> I SUPPOSE.

>> YOU HAVE TO START WITH THAT.

>> MESS WITH MY BROTHER.

>> THERE YOU GO. THEN IT DEVOLVES FROM THERE. THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS I LOVE ABOUT THIS SHOW. I WAS SAYING THIS IN THE GREEN ROOM. TECHNICALLY IT'S THIS SCI-FI SHOW BUT IS ASKING THESE REAL QUESTIONS LIKE WHAT IS YOUR TRUE SELF? HOW DO YOU DEFINE THAT? WHAT ARE THE CONSEQUENCES OF THE DIFFERENT ACTIONS THAT YOU TAKE AND ALL THESE DIFFERENT ANSWERS IT EXPLORES AND THERE'S A PARALLEL EARTH.

>> AND CAR CHASES.

>> AND CAR CHASES AND STUFF IN THERE AS WELL. ONE MORE QUESTION. COME RIGHT ON DOWN.

>> HI. CAN YOU TEASE SEASON TWO IN THREE WORDS?

>> PICK A SIDE.

>> WELL DONE!

>> WOW!

>> YEAH. I THINK THAT'S --

>> THERE YOU GO. THAT'S IT. NEED NOT SAY MORE. YEAH.

>> PROBLEM IS, I WANT TO SAY SO MUCH MORE. SEASON TWO. I'M SO EXCITED. THIS IS ONE OF MY FAVORITE EVER JOBS. SEASON TWO IS BIGGER AND BADDER AND MORE DETAILED THAN THE FIRST SEASON. AND THERE'S SO MUCH I WANT TO TELL YOU, AND I CAN'T.

>> I GUESS WE'RE JUST GOING TO HAVE TO WATCH THE SHOW. THE ENTIRE REASON YOU CAME TO HANG OUT TODAY. PERFECT. THERE YOU GO. GUYS, WATCH THIS SHOW. "COUNTERPART" SUNDAY ON STARZ OR FIND IT ON DEMAND. TRUST ME YOU WON'T REGRET IT. THIS THING IS AMAZING. THANK YOU SO MUCH. ONCE AGAIN, EVERYBODY JOIN ME. BE AN AUDIENCE AUDIENCE AND SHOW SOME LOVE FOR THE GREAT HARRY LLOYD RIGHT HERE.

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Now that's smising! 😉 We had a blast talking all things "Life-Size 2" with the always fabulous Tyra Banks, who served as star and executive producer on the Freeform movie. (Photo Credit: Jammi York /BUILD )

Stephan James, KiKi Layne & Barry Jenkins

From the director of "Moonlight" comes the new James Baldwin-adapted film, "If Beale Street Could Talk." Our deep conversation with Barry Jenkins, Stephan James and Kiki Layne is one you don't want to miss! (Photo Credit: Jammi York /BUILD )

Tim Meadows & Cristin Milioti

We had a fun time talking to "No Activity" stars Cristin Milioti and Tim Meadows. They shared what they like most about working on the CBS All Access series. (Photo Credit: Mike Pont /BUILD )

Laura Prepon

Not only is Laura Prepon a great actress, but she's a great cook too. We talked all about her new YouTube Channel, where she gives cooking tips, and, of course, "Orange is the New Black." (Photo Credit: Jammi York /BUILD )

Melissa Joan Hart

We always are up to chat with the lovely Melissa Joan Hart. Hear her thoughts on the new "Sabrina" series and her new Lifetime film, "A Very Nutty Christmas." (Photo Credit: Jammi York /BUILD )

Diego Luna

Diego Luna is quite the busy man! Tune in to our talk with the talented actor about his roles in Netflix's "Narcos: Mexico," the Oscar-contending "If Beale Street Could Talk" and more. (Photo Credit: Mike Pont /BUILD )

Patricia Heaton

'Tis the season to give! Hear why Patricia Heaton has teamed up with World Vision to help their great cause! (Photo Credit: Noam Galai /BUILD )

Alexander Dreymon

Season 3 of "The Last Kingdom" is finally on Netflix! From shooting fight scenes to analyzing his character, star Alexander Dreymon stopped by to talk about the show. (Photo Credit: Jammi York /BUILD )

Jack & Jack

Jack & Jack sure bring out a crowd, so I guess it's a great thing they're performing at the Macy's Thanksgiving Parade! 🤗 Find out what's next for the duo! (Photo Credit: Jammi York /BUILD )

Jesse Eisenberg, Matt Green & Jeremy Workman

Matt Green is a on a mission to walk every inch of New York City! Green, EP Jesse Eisenberg and director Jeremy Workman came to BUILD to tell his story. #Walkumentary ‍🚶 (Photo Credit: Jammi York /BUILD )

Tichina Arnold & Tisha Campbell

With their hilarity and infectious energy, you absolutely to have love these two ladies! If you want a good laugh, then tune in to our great time with Tichina Arnold & Tisha Campbell! (Photo Credit: Mike Pont /BUILD )

DCappella

We love Disney and we love Acapella, so you could imagine we were stoked to talk to DCappella and have them perform a few fan-favorite songs! (Photo Credit: Jammi York /BUILD )

Sarah Silverman

Funny and insightful, trust us when we say you should tune in to our chat with the hilarious Sarah Silverman about "Ralph Breaks the Internet" and "I Love You America." (Photo Credit: Noam Galai /BUILD )

Billy Corgan of The Smashing Pumpkins

We love Billy Corgan but his adorable son, Augustus, stole the show! 😫 Don't miss The Smashing Pumpkins member talk about his band's incredible journey, and Augustus play on stage.  (Photo Credit: Jammi York /BUILD )

Dan Fogler

If there's 1 thing you should do, it's check out our BUILD with Dan Fogler! We talked all things "Fantastic Beasts," from what it was like shooting the new film to what's next for the hit franchise. (Photo Credit: Jammi York /BUILD )

Bryce Segall, Chantal Rochelle & Kevan Kenney

What's #NewMusicFriday without having a panel of experts to break it down? Well, that's where Weekend Listen comes in. Tune in! (Photo Credit: Noam Galai /BUILD )

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