12.05.18

Directors Sidney Beaumont & Michael Bonfiglio Talk "Paris To Pittsburgh"

"Paris to Pittsburgh" brings to life the impassioned efforts of individuals who are battling the most severe threats of climate change in their own backyards. Set against the national debate over the United States’ energy future — and the Trump administration’s explosive decision to exit the Paris Climate Agreement — the film captures what’s at stake for communities around the country and the inspiring ways Americans are responding. The film is directed by Emmy Award-winning Sidney Beaumont and Emmy-nominated filmmaker Michael Bonfiglio.

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>>> WELCOME TO BUILD. GRAPPLING WITH CLIMATE CHANGE IS THE MOST IMPORTANT ISSUE OF OUR TIME. IT IS LITERALLY THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN LIFE AND DEATH FOR THE PLANET. ONE OF THE MOST TERRIFYING ASPECTS IS IT IS A GRADUAL CHANGE THAT CHANGES HOW WE LIVE, WHERE WE LIVE, RESOURCES, SAFETY AND ECONOMY. AS THE U.N. PREDICTS THAT BY 2030 WE WILL FEEL SIGNIFICANT AND IRREVERSIBLE CHANGES TO OUR LIVES OUR FEDERAL GOVERNMENT IS DOING LITTLE TO PREPARE US. TAKING ITS NAME FROM THE NATIONALISTIC AND ILL-INFORMED PHRASE I REPRESENT THE PEOPLE OF PITTSBURGH NOT PARIS UTTERED BY A CURRENT PARIS UTTERED BY A CURRENT PRESIDENT -- LET'S TAKE A LOOK.

>> THE UNITED STATES WILL WITHDRAW FROM THE PARIS CLIMATE ACCORD. I WAS ELECTED TO REPRESENT THE CITIZEN OF PITTSBURGH, NOT PARIS.

>> PITTSBURGH? NOW, WHAT WAS UPSETTING ABOUT THAT, THAT ALLITERATION WAS A STEREOTYPE OF OUR PAST.

>> PITTSBURGH IS POISED AND READY TO LEAD IN THE 21st CENTURY.

>> WE ARE SEEING CITIES AND STATES AND COMPANIES AND INDIVIDUALS SAYING WE ARE STILL IN EVEN WITH THE PRESIDENT PULLING US OUT OF ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT TREATIES. WHEN EVERY OTHER MAJOR COUNTRY IN THE WORLD HAS SAID WE ARE GOING TO COME TOGETHER AND COMMIT TO DEALING WITH CLIMATE CHANGE.

>> I CONTINUE TO BE SHOCKED AT HOW CLOSE THE WATER IS APPROACHING. SEA LEVEL RISE IS COMPLETELY APPARENT.

>> WE HAVE 6 1/2 FEET OF WATER ON THE MAIN LEVEL OF THE HOUSE. STUFF IN THE BEDROOM WOUND UP IN THE GARAGE AND STUFF IN THE GARAGE I IMAGINE IS WAY DOWN IN LOUISIANA.

>> THE STORMS ARE COMING STRONGER IN PUERTO RICO. THE WORST THING IS THE THINK THAT THAT REALITY WILL REPEAT. TO NOT BE ABLE TO SAVE ANYTHING WAS REALLY HARD.

>> IF WE ARE GOING TO AVOID BREACHING CATASTROPHIC LEVELS OF WARMING, WE NEED TO BE PUTTING OUR FOOT ON THE RENEWABLE ENERGY ACCELERATION PEDAL. THE TRANSFORMATION TOWARDS A RENEWABLE ENERGY FUTURE IS THE GREATEST ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY OF THE 21st CENTURY.

>> BUSINESSES HAVE LINED UP TO SAY WE ARE STILL COMMITTING TO THE PARIS ACCORD BECAUSE IT IS GOOD FOR THEIR BOTTOM LINE.

>> MY DAUGHTER MADE A DECISION --

>> THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY THAT HASN'T BEEN AVAILABLE IN AMERICA FOR A LONG, LONG TIME.

>> THE SOLAR INDUSTRY IS OFFERING THE SECOND CHANCE OPPORTUNITY.

>> IT DOESN'T MATTER IF YOU ARE REPUBLICAN, DEMOCRAT, INDEPENDENT YOU HAVE A ROLE TO PLAY HERE.

>> WE CAN EXCEED THE ROLES OF THE PARIS AGREEMENT.

>> THIS IS THE START OF US TAKING CONTROL OF OUR FUTURE. WE HAVE A RIGHT TO THE FUTURE AND BASIC NECESSITIES WE NEED TO LIVE. WE THE PEOPLE NEED TO TAKE ACTION.

>> OUR LIVES ARE AT STAKE HERE.

>> PARIS TO PITTSBURGH, THE ILL-INFORMED NATIONALISTIC PHRASE UTTERED BY OUR PRESIDENT WHEN HE PULLED OUT OF THE PARIS CLIMATE ACCORDS. THAT IS WHERE YOU ARE BASING THE NAME OF THE DOCUMENTARY. I FEEL LIKE YOU ARE TURNING IT, TWISTING IT, SHOWING US WHAT IT ACTUALLY MEANS. CAN YOU TALK ABOUT THAT?

>> SURE.

>> IT WAS AN IRRESISTIBLE WAY INTO THE FILM WHEN THE PRESIDENT UTTERED THE PHRASE I AM THE PRESIDENT OF PITTSBURGH NOT PARIS. THIS IS A GREAT PERSON WILLING TO STAND UP AND SAY VERY CLEARLY NO PRESIDENT TRUMP YOU ARE NOT OUR PRESIDENT WITH RESPECT TO THIS ISSUE. SO AGAIN IT WAS JUST SORT OF A SELF-EVIDENT WAY OF GETTING INTO THE STORY THAT WE WERE INTERESTED IN TELLING.

>> IT ILLUSTRATES THAT JUST BECAUSE HE THINKS HE IS THE PRESIDENT OF ONE PLACE AND NOT ANOTHER PLACE DOESN'T MEAN THAT CLIMATE CHANGE AND GLOBAL CATASTROPHE ISN'T GOING TO HAPPEN FROM PARIS TO PITTSBURGH AND ALL ACROSS THE GLOBE AND THAT WE ARE ALL KIND OF RESPONSIBLE FOR CHANGING THAT. WE CAN TALK ABOUT ALL OF THE DIRE THINGS THAT ARE HAPPENING RIGHT NOW THAT WE HAVE SEEN IN THE LAST FEW YEARS. WE CAN ALSO -- LET'S START ON A POSITIVE NOTE AND TALK ABOUT PEOPLE YOU INTERVIEW IN THE DOCUMENTARY WHO ARE SEEING POSITIVE SIGNS AND WORKING TOWARDS SOLUTIONS WHEN IT COMES TO CLIMATE CHANGE. CAN YOU TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE PEOPLE IN IOWA THAT YOU SPOKE TO?

>> YEAH. ONE OF THE THINGS ABOUT THE FILM THAT I THINK IS INTERESTING IS THAT THE REASON BEHIND SOME OF THE SOLUTIONS IS NOT SOLELY BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE WORRIED ABOUT CLIMATE CHANGE. A LOT OF IT IS PURELY ECONOMICS. IN IOWA, FOR EXAMPLE, OUR TEAM VISITED SOME FOLKS WHO ARE WORKING AT A COMMUNITY COLLEGE THAT HAS A WIND TECHNOLOGY PROGRAM THAT IN TWO YEARS THEY COME OUT WITH AN ASSOCIATE'S DEGREE AND ARE ESSENTIALLY GUARANTEED EMPLOYMENT BECAUSE THE INDUSTRY IS GROWING SO FAST. A LOT OF THE REASONS FOR MOVING TO CLEANER ENERGY TO RENEWABLES LIKE WIND AND SOLAR IS NOT JUST BECAUSE IT IS GOOD FOR THE PLANET, BUT IT IS GOOD FOR OUR ECONOMY. THAT WAS KIND OF PART OF THE MESSAGE OF THE FILM IS THAT THE REASONS FOR THESE THINGS WHILE A LOT OF THE SOLUTIONS DON'T ONLY HELP US COMBAT CLIMATE CHANGE BUT ARE GOOD FOR OUR ECONOMY AND FOR JOBS.

>> YOU CAN ARGUE AGAINST WORKING TOWARDS HAVING AN EFFECT ON CLIMATE CHANGE IS THAT IT IS SO FAR DOWN THE ROAD AND IT WILL ONLY HURT OUR BOTTOM LINE. IF I HAVE A PERSON MAKING $35,000 A YEAR WORKING IN THE COAL PLANT AND YOU ARE GOING TO SHUT DOWN MY PLANT, GRANTED THERE IS ONLY ABOUT 3,000 JOBS LEFT I THINK IN THE COAL INDUSTRY AND MOST OF THEM ARE MANAGEMENT --

>> THERE IS OVER 50,000. THERE ARE ABOUT 800,000 PEOPLE WORKING IN RENEWABLES IN THIS COUNTRY. THERE IS A HUGE GAP. IT IS A DECLINING INDUSTRY. WE HAVE SEEN ANNOUNCEMENTS OF THE RETIREMENT OF COAL PLANTS OVER THE LAST NUMBER OF YEARS. WE KNOW IT'S A SECTOR OF THE ECONOMY OR A FORM OF ENERGY THAT IS DEFINITELY ON THE DECLINE. RIGHT NOW REALLY THE ECONOMICS DON'T REALLY STACK UP FOR COAL. IN MOST PLACES IN THE COUNTRY RENEWABLES ARE MORE COST EFFECTIVE, CHEAPER. WHEN THEY SET OUT TO BUILD NEW ENERGY AND OLD COAL PLANTS IT'S CHEAPER TO OPERATE RENEWABLE ENERGY AS A SOURCE COMPARED TO COAL. IT IS CLEARLY ON THE DECLINE.

>> DO YOU FEEL LIKE HAVING MADE THIS THAT WE ARE HAVING THE WRONG CONVERSATION ABOUT CLIMATE CHANGE? WE HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT IT AS IF IT IS JUST CATASTROPHE AND ONE DAY THE SWITCH WILL GO OFF AND WE WILL FEEL IT? AND AT THE SAME TIME TALKING ABOUT THE BOTTOM LINE AND HOW THAT EFFECTS IT?

>> I THINK THAT THAT IS THE SURPRISING THING ABOUT IT FOR A LOT OF PEOPLE. IF YOU LOOK AT IT, THE OPENING OF OUR FILM REALLY IS A QUICK SORT OF HISTORY OF CLIMATE SCIENCE. WE START WITH A CLIP FROM 1958 WHERE -- AND PROGRESS THROUGH THE SIGNING OF THE PARIS CLIMATE AGREEMENT, SCIENTISTS WERE SAYING FROM THAT MOMENT THAT THE SCIENCE WAS POINTING IN THE DIRECTION THAT INCREASED CARBON AND OTHER GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS WILL BRING US TO A POTENTIAL POINT OF CATASTROPHE. SO THE FUNDAMENTAL SCIENCE IS NOT THAT DIFFICULT NOR IS IT THAT MYSTERIOUS. IT WAS KNOWN VERY EARLY ON IN THE PROCESS. SO, OF COURSE, OUR UNDERSTANDING OF THE FINE TUNING THE DETAILS OF EXACTLY THE HUMAN FINGER PRINTS ON CLIMATE IMPACTS HAVE CERTAINLY -- WE HAVE A GREATER UNDERSTANDING OF THOSE. THE ESSENCE OF IT WAS THERE. THE PROBLEM IS THAT THERE ARE A WHOLE SET OF FORCES THAT PREVENTED PEOPLE FROM REALLY WANTING TO ACCEPT IT. AND THAT'S IN A WAY HUMAN NATURE. BUT WHAT WE ARE SEEING NOW BOTH OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS AND NOW WITH SOME OF THE RECENT REPORTING FROM THE INTERGOVERNMENTAL PANEL ON CLIMATE CHANGE AND THIS MOST RECENT NATIONAL CLIMATE ASSESSMENT IS TELLING US WHAT WE ARE ALL EXPERIENCING WHICH IS IT IS COMING HOME TO ROOST. WE ARE REALLY STARTING TO FEEL IT.

>> YOU INTERVIEW A MAN JUST OUTSIDE OF MIAMI. HE IS SORT OF AROUND WHAT FEELS LIKE THE SWAMP AREAS. ONE OF THE THINGS HE SAYS THAT I THINK IS ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT THINGS ABOUT CLIMATE CHANGE THAT WE WILL FEEL THE IMMEDIATE EFFECTS OF IS MIGRATION. PEOPLE ARE GOING TO START MOVING BECAUSE SEA LEVELS ARE GOING TO RISE IN MIAMI. IT'S SWALLOWED BY THE OCEAN. PEOPLE WILL HAVE TO MOVE PLACES. WE ALREADY SEE WARS BEING STARTED BECAUSE OF THAT. ONE OF THE MAJOR ARGUMENTS ABOUT SYRIA IS THAT THE WAR WAS CAUSED BY MIGRATION, DUE TO A DROUGHT. THOSE ARE RARELY THE CONVERSATIONS THAT WE HEAR WHEN IT COMES TO CLIMATE CHANGE. DO YOU THINK THAT WILL START CHANGING?

>> I THINK IT HAS BEGUN TO CHANGE. AND THERE ARE RESULTS OF THAT THAT WE ARE NOT SEEING WARS IN OUR COUNTRY BECAUSE OF IT. WE ARE SEEING THINGS LIKE HOUSING COSTS GOING WAY UP IN PLACES LIKE NORTHERN CALIFORNIA WHERE THERE IS A LOT OF REASONS WHY HOUSING COSTS ARE GOING UP. THE FIRES HAVE DISPLACED SO MANY PEOPLE. IF YOU TRY TO RENT A HOME IN THAT REGION, GOOD LUCK IF YOU ARE A REGULAR PERSON. IN MIAMI AND THAT REGION, PEOPLE ARE HAVING A HARD TIME GETTING INSURANCE FOR THEIR HOMES. THAT'S GOING TO CONTINUE TO CHANGE. IN NORTHERN CALIFORNIA SPECIFICALLY, THERE ARE PLACES WHERE PEOPLE ARE LIVING IN THEIR CARS BECAUSE THEY HAVE BEEN DISPLACED. WHAT DO WE DO WITH THESE PEOPLE? HOW DO WE TAKE CARE OF THEM? THAT'S ONLY GOING TO GET WORSE. GLOBALLY, THERE IS A LOT OF -- CLIMATE CHANGE IS AT THE ROOT OF A LOT OF CONFLICT. THESE ARE BIG IDEAS AND IT IS KIND OF HARD TO GET THROUGH TO PEOPLE. WHEN WE SEE FLOODING LIKE IN FLORENCE AFTER THE HURRICANE OR IRMA OR ANY OF THE NATIONAL DISASTERS, WE START TO FEEL IT A LITTLE MORE CLOSELY. IF WE CAN MAKE THE CONNECTION THAT THE REASON FOR THIS IS THE CHANGE IN CLIMATE, I THINK PEOPLE WILL START LOOKING UP.

>> SINCE THE MOST RECENT CLIMATE-RELATED DISASTERS IN THE COUNTRY, IT SEEMS AS THOUGH PRESIDENT TRUMP HIMSELF HAS KIND OF CHANGED HIS TONE A LITTLE BIT ON HOW HE TALKS ABOUT CLIMATE CHANGE IN THE SENSE WHERE HE DOESN'T JUST OUTRIGHT DENY, NOW HE SAYS I THINK HE SAID SOMETHING IS HAPPENING, BUT IT COULD GO BACK, I DON'T KNOW. WHICH IS CLASSIC TRUMPISM. BUT IN SOME WAYS, IS THAT A SILVER LINING IN AND OF ITSELF THAT THE TOP REPUBLICAN IN THIS COUNTRY WHO ARE NOTORIOUS FOR DISREGARDING OR DENYING CLIMATE CHANGE ARE KIND OF COMING FORWARD AND SAYING IT'S UNDENIABLE?

>> WELL, I THINK, SOME OF THE RECENT REPORTS THAT HAVE COME OUT OF THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT WHICH OBVIOUSLY THE ADMINISTRATION COULD HAVE TRIED TO ADJUST SOME OF THOSE FINDINGS, REALLY --

>> DUMP IT ON THE FRIDAY AFTER THANKSGIVING, AS WELL.

>> ON BLACK FRIDAY WHICH IN A CERTAIN WAY I THINK BACK FIRED BECAUSE THE MEDIA PICKED UP ON IT. THE REPORT BECAUSE OF THE STRENGTH OF THE EVIDENCE AND WHAT PEOPLE HAVE BEEN EXPERIENCING OVER THE PAST COUPLE OF YEARS REALLY POINTED TO SOME SERIOUS, URGENT AND NOT IN THE DISTANT FUTURE KINDS OF ISSUES. HUNDREDS OF BILLIONS OF DOLLARS WHEN YOU HAVE SOMETHING LIKE HURRICANE -- THE FILM IN 2017 HURRICANE SEASON OR THAT SEASON WAS TOTAL $306 BILLION IN DAMAGES. THIS IS A TREMENDOUS HIT TO THE ECONOMY AND PEOPLE'S LIVELIHOODS AND THEIR WELL BEING AND BEING ABLE TO FUNCTION IN THE COMMUNITIES. I THINK IT HAS BEEN INCREASINGLY APPARENT THAT WE CAN'T DENY IT. WHETHER THE PRESIDENT IS GOING TO COME AROUND TO THE SCIENTIFIC CONSENSUS, I CAN'T PREDICT. I KNOW RECENT STUDIES WERE SHOWING PEOPLE ACROSS THE ENTIRE POLITICAL SPECTRUM, INDEPENDENTS, DEMOCRATS AND REPUBLICANS, THERE IS NOW A MAJORITY OF INDIVIDUALS WHEN POLLED BY THE RECENT POLL THAT SUGGESTED CLIMATE CHANGE IS HAPPENING. IT'S IMPACTING OUR LIVES. THEY ARE CONCERNED ABOUT IT AND THEY WANT THE GOVERNMENT AND OUR INSTITUTIONS TO START DEALING WITH IT. IT SEEMS LIKE THERE IS AN INCREASING AWARENESS IN EMERGING CONSENSUS. THE QUESTION IS, IS IT GOING TO BE FAST ENOUGH? WILL WE BE ABLE TO SCALE UP TO ADDRESS IT?

>> DO YOU FEEL LIKE THERE IS STILL TIME? NOT TO PUT THAT ON YOU.

>> THERE IS NOT TIME TO AVERT ALL OF IT, BUT THERE IS TIME, I THINK, ACCORDING TO THE SCIENTISTS WHO HAVE HEARD THE WORST OF IT. WE ARE ALREADY EXPERIENCING IT. THE HURRICANE SEASONS GET WORSE EVERY YEAR. THE FIRE SEASONS GET WORSE EVERY YEAR. MOST OF US ARE FEELING THE IMPACTS OF IT. IT IS A GRADUAL CHANGE. EVEN OVER THE LAST TEN YEARS WE HAVE NOTICED A DIFFERENCE ON A VERY BASIC PRACTICAL LEVEL. WE ARE IN MANY WAYS BEYOND A BUNCH OF TIPPING POINTS. THE TIPPING POINT OF SEEING 20-FOOT SEA LEVEL RISE WE ARE NOT THERE AND THERE ARE THINGS WE CAN DO TO AVERT THAT KIND OF CATASTROPHE. WE ARE ALREADY SEEING IN MANY PLACES AROUND THE COUNTRY AND AROUND THE WORLD THINGS THAT ARE HAPPENING IN TERMS OF FLOOD CONTROL AND THOSE TYPES OF THINGS THAT WE ARE INVESTING BILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN TO DEAL WITH THIS PROBLEM.

>> ONE OF THE THINGS THAT YOU MENTIONED IS THAT AT THE TOP OF THE FILM YOU HAVE A QUICK MONTAGE THAT GOES THROUGH 1958 TO THE PARIS ACCORDS. YOU SEE IN THE '70s AND THE '80s POLITICIANS HANDLED THE CLIMATE DIFFERENTLY. NIXON STARTED THE E.P.A. FROM THERE YOU HAVE EVEN REAGAN SORT OF TALKING ABOUT OZONE LEVELS AND ACTUALLY TRYING TO CONFRONT THESE ISSUES WHETHER THEY CALLED IT CLIMATE CHANGE OR GLOBAL WARMING OR NOT. WHEN DO YOU START TO SEE IT CHANGE POLITICALLY?

>> IT WAS INTERESTING. JOHN McCAIN AS A CANDIDATE AGAINST PRESIDENT OBAMA, HE WAS VERY MUCH ARTICULATING A STRONG POSITION FOR THE NEED TO GRAPPLE WITH CLIMATE CHANGE. SO EVEN WITHIN THE RANKS OF THE REPUBLICANS -- THERE ARE DIFFERENT SORT OF VIEWS ON WHY IT IS THAT IT BECAME SO PARTISAN OR SO POLITICIZED AFTER THAT POINT. IT CERTAINLY IS THE INTEREST OF THE REPUBLICAN PARTY AS THEY ALIGN WITH INDUSTRY AT THAT POINT SEEM TO REALLY DRAW A LINE IN THE SAND. WE SEE IT POLARIZE. SOME OF THE PEOPLE WHO WE SPOKE TO LIKE CONGRESSMAN CARLOS CARBELLO FROM SOUTH FLORIDA REALLY BEMOAN THAT FRAMING AND SAY IT SHOULD NOT BE A PARTISAN ISSUE, THAT HIS CONSTITUENCIES ARE BEING HEAVILY IMPACTED BY THIS AND THERE IS NO EXPLANATION OTHER THAN CLIMATE CHANGE. THE SCIENCE SAYS SO. THE EXPERIENCE ON THE GROUND SAYS SO. EVEN THOUGH IT HAS BECOME HIGHLY CHARGED AND POLITICIZED AND A PARTISAN ISSUE, THERE ARE MANY REASONS TO BELIEVE IT SHOULDN'T BE AND NOT ALL REPUBLICANS BELIEVE THAT. WE INTERVIEWED JERRY TAYLOR WHO IS THE FORMER ASSOCIATE AT THE KATEO INSTITUTE WHICH IS A LIBITARIAN THINK TANK. HE HAS BECOME A CLIMATE HAWK, A GREAT ADVOCATE FOR TACKLING CLIMATE CHANGE. HE WOULD CLEARLY SAY THAT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT HAS TO CUT ACROSS ALL POLITICAL BOUNDARIES AND BEMOANS THE FACT THAT IT DOESN'T. YOU CAN ATTRIBUTE IT TO CERTAIN INTERESTS, CERTAIN CORPORATE INTERESTS, CERTAIN AFFILIATIONS, THE KOCH BROTHERS HAVE BEEN STRONG ADVOCATES OF SUGGESTING THAT CLIMATE CHANGE IS NOT IMPACTING US AND THEY HAVE SUPPORTED CERTAIN POLITICIANS. WE DO POINT THAT OUT. THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION ALSO HAS STRONG AFFILIATIONS WITH THE FOSSIL FUEL INTERESTS, PARTICULARLY COAL. THESE ARE SOME OF THE BARRIERS THAT HAVE BEEN CREATED AND OBSTACLES TO WHAT WE THINK IS HAVING A RATIONAL CONVERSATION ABOUT IT.

>> YOU ALSO INTERVIEW CHUCK GRASSLEY IN IT WHICH IS A PRETTY UNEXPECTED PERSON TO BE INTERVIEWING. EVEN HE CAN'T DENY THE BENEFITS OF RENEWABLE ENERGY. WERE YOU SURPRISED BY THAT?

>> WELL, IN IOWA RENEWABLES HAVE BEEN SO SUCCESSFUL. IOWA REALLY IS A MODEL FOR OUR WHOLE COUNTRY IN TERMS OF WHAT CAN BE DONE. I THINK IT IS 30% OF THEIR ENERGY COMES FROM WIND.

>> 36% TO 37%.

>> SO WITH EVERY STATE IN THE COUNTRY DOING THAT AND FOLLOWED IOWA'S LEAD WE WOULD BE WELL ON OUR WAY TO MEETING THE GOALS OF THE PARIS AGREEMENT ALREADY. SO BACK TO YOUR QUESTION ABOUT GRASSLEY, I WILL LET HIM EXPAND.

>> HE SEES IT AS VERY MUCH IN THE INTEREST OF HIS CONSTITUENCY OF HIS COMMUNITY, OF THE CITIZENS OF THAT STATE. IT IS CLEAR THAT IT IS GIVEN THE NUMBER OF JOBS THAT ARE THERE AND THE PROSPECTS FOR GROWTH IN THAT INDUSTRY. WHAT WE HAVE TO DO IS SCALE IT. EVERY DAY AS IT COMES DOWN THE PIKE, IT IS GREATER OR MOUNTING EVIDENCE THAT FROM AN ECONOMIC STANDPOINT IT IS IN OUR BENEFIT TO PURSUE RENEWABLE ENERGY. WE NEED TO EMBRACE THE FOURTH INDUSTRIAL REVOLUTION WHICH IS ABOUT RENEWABLES AND GREENING OUR ECONOMY. AND, YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT THE NUMBERS BEAR THAT OUT. IF YOU GO BACK TO THE ORIGINAL ANNOUNCEMENT WHEN PRESIDENT TRUMP ANNOUNCED HIS INTENT TO WITHDRAW FROM THE PARIS CLIMATE AGREEMENT, HE SAID THAT THAT AGREEMENT IS A JOB KILLER. WE KNOW, AGAIN -- THERE ARE TEN MILLION JOBS WORLDWIDE RENEWABLE ENERGY. IT CONTINUES TO GO UP. THE JOBS ARE THERE. WE JUST HAVE TO CONTINUE TO INCENTIVIZE IT AND UNDERSTAND THAT IT IS A SOLUTION. WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF TIME. WE DO NEED TO SCALE IT QUICKLY. IT'S GOING TO TAKE SOME COMMITMENT, WHICH WE ARE SEEING IN BUSINESSES, IN STATES. THAT IS REALLY ONE OF THE THINGS OF OUR FILM. ON THE GROUND PEOPLE ARE MAKING THESE CHANGES AND IT IS HAVING AN IMPACT. SO WE DO HAVE A ROAD MAP. WE DO HAVE EXAMPLES, BUT IT'S ABOUT FIGURING OUT A WAY TO REALLY SCALE THIS WHICH WE THINK WILL GIVE PEOPLE A SENSE OF CONCRETE EXAMPLES AND A SENSE OF HOPE, TOO.

>> ABSOLUTELY. ONE OF THE THINGS YOU SAID A FEW MINUTES AGO, YOU MENTIONED HUMAN NATURE. YOU SAID IT IS SORT OF HUMAN NATURE I THINK TO KIND OF DENY OR TO AT LEAST FOCUS ON THIS ONE ELEMENT THAT IS IN YOUR IMMEDIATE INTEREST RATHER THAN ON THE LONG TERM. AND I THINK IT REMINDED ME OF SHELL GETTING THESE REPORTS THAT CLIMATE CHANGE WAS HAPPENING IN THE '70s AND DOING EVERYTHING THEY CAN TO DENY THE REPORTS, HIDE THE REPORTS. I THINK THERE IS A MASSIVE CLASS ACTION LAWSUIT OR SOMEONE IS DEVELOPING ONE BECAUSE OF THAT WHY DO YOU THINK IT IS HUMAN NATURE TO WAIT SO LONG? TO BE SO AFRAID OF INVESTING IN LONG TERM GOALS? ESPECIALLY IN THIS COUNTRY THIS GOES BEYOND CLIMATE CHANGE AND TOUCHES ON SO MANY DIFFERENT ELEMENTS OF ISSUES THAT ARE HAPPENING IN THIS COUNTRY. WE ARE AFRAID OF INVESTMENT AND LONG TERM OPPORTUNITIES AND LONG TERM GROWTH IDEAS.

>> THERE IS A LOT OF MOMENTUM TO DO THINGS THE WAY WE HAVE DONE THEM. WE HAVE SEEN THESE SORT OF UPHEAVALS AND CHANGES. WE LIKEN IT TO THE HORSE AND BUGGY AND GOING TO THE AUTOMOBILE. OBVIOUSLY, TECHNOLOGY MOVES QUICKLY, BUT SOMETHING THAT IS SO -- WE TALK ABOUT THE PARIS CLIMATE AGREEMENT AS MAKING A COMMITMENT TO KEEPING AVERAGE GLOBAL TEMPERATURE FROM RISING ABOVE TWO DEGREES CELSIUS RELATIVE TO PRE-INDUSTRIAL LEVELS MEANING THE 1850s OR 1880s. SO WE HAVE BEEN USING THIS FORM OF ENERGY AND THE WAY THAT WE HAVE CONDUCTED OURSELVES IN OUR COMMUNITIES IN THE ECONOMY FOR MANY YEARS. IT'S A HEAVY LIFT TO MAKE THAT CHANGE. IT'S HARD FOR PEOPLE TO MAKE THOSE CHANGES WHEN THEY CAN'T FEEL OR SEE AN IMMEDIATE OR URGENT REASON TO DO SO. I THINK THAT IS THE THING THAT IS CHANGING RIGHT NOW. AGAIN, IT HAS SORT OF LEAP FROGGED US. AS WE WERE TALKING EARLIER, I LOVE THE WAY YOU PUT THAT IS SORT OF THE PLANET IS OUTRUNNING OUR ABILITY TO UNDERSTAND OR MAKE THE CHANGES IN TIME.

>> IT STARTED LAPPING US THIS YEAR.

>> I THINK THAT IS AN EXCELLENT WAY TO SAY IT. SO WE ARE PLAYING A GAME OF CATCH UP RIGHT NOW. WE ARE GOING TO REALLY HAVE TO UP OUR GAME TO GET THERE. BUT AS WE ARE SAYING THE SCIENTIFIC REPORTS THAT ARE COMING OUT WHILE ALSO POINTING TO THE DIRE OUTCOMES THAT WE COULD BE LOOKING AT ARE SAYING THERE ARE SOLUTIONS AT HAND IF WE CAN SCALE, IF WE CAN IMPLEMENT. I THINK THAT IS REALLY THE FOCUS OF OUR FILM. I THINK PEOPLE ALSO -- ANOTHER ASPECT OF THIS EMOTIONAL OR HUMAN ASPECT IS THAT PEOPLE ARE FEELING A LITTLE BIT PARALYZED. THEY ARE FEELING A LITTLE BIT CHECKED OUT. SO WE ARE TRYING TO TELL STORIES THAT REALLY IDENTIFY RELATABLE, INDIVIDUAL PERSONAL STORIES IN COMMUNITIES THAT PEOPLE CAN SAY THOSE PEOPLE LOOK LIKE ME OR HAVE A SIMILAR EXPERIENCE. THEY MAY NOT BE IN MY COMMUNITY. IT MAY BE THEIR COMMUNITY BECAUSE WE DO TRAVEL AROUND THE U.S. TO TELL THE STORIES. TO BRING IT HOME TO FOLKS AND UNDERSTAND THOSE THINGS AND PERSONALIZE IT, I THINK HELPS GIVE PEOPLE SORT OF THE IMAGINATION IN ORDER TO SEE HOW IT IS AFFECTING US AND ALSO IN THE SAME COMMUNITIES REALLY FOCUSSING ON HOW WE CAN BRING ABOUT CHANGE, AS WELL, TO TACKLE THIS PROBLEM.

>> ABSOLUTELY. LET'S TAKE QUESTIONS FROM OUR AUDIENCE. I THINK WE HAVE A COUPLE OF THEM.

>> I WAS WONDERING BECAUSE YOU MENTIONED THE CATO INSTITUTE. DO YOU THINK IN COMBATTING CLIMATE CHANGE THE RESPONSIBILITY FALLS MOSTLY TO THE GOVERNMENT TO HELP ITS CITIZEN OR TO THE PREMARKET INTO CORPORATIONS TO DO THEIR DUE DILIGENCE AND TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR THE CONSEQUENCES THAT THEIR ACTIONS MIGHT HAVE ON THE PLANET?

>> I THINK IT IS A BIT OF BOTH AND THEY WORK TOGETHER. THE GOVERNMENT NEEDS TO REGULATE AND SET STANDARDS IN ORDER TO KEEP BUSINESS IN LINE. WHAT WE ARE FINDING IN OUR CURRENT ADMINISTRATION THAT IS DOING NOTHING IN TERMS OF THAT STUFF IN MANY CASES ROLLING BACK REGULATIONS, IS THAT WE'RE SEEING PRIVATE SECTOR IS LEADING THE WAY IN MANY WAYS BECAUSE THEY KNOW THAT THEIR CONSTITUENTS ARE DEMANDING THIS STUFF. THEY ARE ALSO SEEING THE ECONOMIC BENEFITS OF IT. IN THE FILM WE TALK ABOUT FACEBOOK AND GOOGLE AND APPLE ARE ALL INVESTING IN SERVER FARMS AND THINGS THAT ARE RUN ON RENEWABLE ENERGY BECAUSE IT IS GOOD FOR THEIR BOTTOM LINE AS WELL AS THEIR REPUTATION, ET CETERA. THE TWO FORCES NEED TO WORK IN CONJUNCTION IN ORDER FOR IT TO ALL WORK. WHEN THE PRIVATE SECTOR IS ALLOWED TO DO WHATEVER THEY WANT THAT'S A PROBLEM. THAT'S WHERE THE GOVERNMENT NEEDS TO STEP IN AND CREATE GUIDE LINES AND ENFORCE THEM.

>> THERE WAS TREMENDOUS LEADERSHIP ON THE PART OF THE PRIVATE SECTOR. WE SAW EVEN IN THE WAKE OF THE ANNOUNCEMENT BY THE PRESIDENT, HUNDREDS OF COMPANIES STOOD UP AND SAID NO. WE DO REALLY BELIEVE THAT WE HAVE TO STAY IN THE PARIS CLIMATE AGREEMENT. THEY MAKE PERSONAL COMMITMENTS AS COMPANIES TO FULFILL THOSE OBLIGATIONS EVEN THOUGH THEY WEREN'T BEING REQUIRED TO OR HELD TO THAT BY THIS INTERNATIONAL AGREEMENT. SO AGAIN WE TALKED ABOUT THE CORPORATE INTEREST. IT'S NOT UNIVERSALLY AGAINST TRYING TO GRAPPLE OR TACKLE CLIMATE CHANGE. THERE ARE A LOT OF COMPANIES THAT ARE DOING GREAT WORK.

>> THAT IS A PLACE THAT WE AS CONSUMERS CAN MAKE CHOICES ABOUT THAT KIND OF STUFF AND SUPPORT BUSINESSES THAT WE FEEL ARE REPRESENTING OUR VALUES.

>> I THINK THAT IS ONE OF THE UNFORTUNATE WAYS THAT IT HAS BEEN FRAMED BY NOT JUST THIS ADMINISTRATION BUT BY PEOPLE WHO ARE OPPOSED TO TACKLING CLIMATE CHANGE. ONCE YOU TACKLE CLIMATE CHANGE YOU ESSENTIALLY ARE REGULATING THE FREE MARKET TO HELL. THEY HAVE NO OPTION, NO CHOICE. NOW YOU ARE AGAINST FREEDOM IN THIS COUNTRY WHICH IS SO CLEARLY NOT THE CASE. ALL THE BUSINESSES ARE STANDING UP AND SAYING THIS WORKS IN THE FREE MARKET ECONOMY. THIS IS HOW WE PROGRESS AND INNOVATE.

>> WE USED TO ALLOW CHILD LABOR AND ALL KINDS OF THINGS THAT WE DON'T ALLOW ANYMORE BECAUSE IT IS CRAZY. WE NEED TO LOOK AT THIS IN THE SAME KIND OF A WAY.

>> ONE MORE QUESTION.

>> HI. WHAT WOULD YOU SAY IS THE MOST SURPRISING THING YOU LEARNED MAKING THIS FILM THAT MAYBE YOU DIDN'T KNOW BEFORE?

>> THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION. I THINK THE MOST SURPRISING THING THAT I PERSONALLY LEARNED AS SOMEBODY WHO LIVED ON THE EAST COAST FOR MANY YEARS, IS THAT IN L.A. IN RESIDENTIAL AREAS IN THE CITY OF L.A. THEY ARE STILL ENGAGED IN FOSSIL FUEL EXTRACTION. THEY ARE STILL DRILLING AND PUMPING OIL IN THE BACK YARDS OF PEOPLE IN LOS ANGELES. THAT WAS SHOCKING IN AND OF ITSELF IN A WAY THAT THAT WOULD BE ALLOWED TO CONTINUE IN THOSE RESIDENTIAL AREAS. BUT ESPECIALLY IN A STATE WHICH HAS SHOWN SUCH GREAT CLIMATE LEADERSHIP. SO THESE TENSIONS BETWEEN SORT OF THE OLD WAY OF THE FOSSIL FUEL PAST AND THE FOSSIL FREE FUTURE ARE STILL PLAYING OUT AND THEY ARE PLAYING OUT ON THE GROUND IN LOS ANGELES WHERE WE HAVE A MAYOR THERE ERIC GAR SETTEE WHO IS DOING TERRIFIC AND TREMENDOUS WORK TO BRING ABOUT THIS TRANSFORMATION.

>> THOSE ARIAL DRONE SHOTS OF THE OIL FIELDS OF LOS ANGELES ARE INCREDIBLE AND SHOCKING BECAUSE YOU RARELY ACTUALLY SEE THEM. AS MUCH AS THEY MAY BE IN A BACKYARD, THEY ARE JUST FAR ENOUGH AWAY WHERE THEY ARE NOT IN YOUR MIND AT ALL.

>> ABSOLUTELY.

>> IN TERMS OF SURPRISING THINGS, I'LL MENTION IOWA, OUR TEAM WENT OUT THERE. IT IS REALLY JUST REMARKABLE THE OPPORTUNITY THAT IS THERE ESPECIALLY FOR YOUNG PEOPLE TO WORK IN THE RENEWABLE ENERGY FIELD. THIS ONE PARTICULAR PROGRAM IN IOWA THAT WE PROFILE, THE STUDENTS ARE GOING IN THERE AND TWO YEARS LATER THEY ARE WALKING OUT WITH ESSENTIALLY GUARANTEED EMPLOYMENT WITH SALARIES OF $60,000 TO $90,000 A YEAR WHICH IS NOT SOMETHING -- IT'S AN OPPORTUNITY THAT HASN'T BEEN AROUND IN THIS COUNTRY FOR A LONG TIME. BLUE COLLAR JOBS THAT ARE RELIABLE, THAT PAY IN AN INDUSTRY THAT HAS A GIGANTICALLY BRIGHT FUTURE. THAT'S A HOPEFUL THING. I THINK THOSE ARE THE KINDS OF THINGS THAT WILL HOPEFULLY ENGAGE PEOPLE IN ALL THE POSITIVE ELEMENTS OF TACKLING THIS ISSUE.

>> IT'S A WONDERFUL FILM. IT'S ON NATGEO.

>> THE 12th AT 9 P.M.

>> EVERYONE GIVE THEM A BIG ROUND OF APPLAUSE. LET'S HEAR IT.

Michael Longoria

'Tis the season! And there was no better way to celebrate it than to chat with Michael Longoria and have him perform some Christmas favorites! (Photo Credit: JP Yim /BUILD )

Shameik Moore & Jake Johnson

With great power, comes great responsibility...and fortunately for audiences, these two men can handle it! 🤟 Tune in to our convo with Jake Johnson and Shameik Moore about their acclaimed animated film, "Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse."  (Photo Credit: Mike Pont /BUILD )

Amber Liu on BUILD Series

From what she's looking forward to most on her "Gone Rogue" tour to what's next for her, Amber Liu shared it all with us! (Photo Credit: Mike Pont /BUILD )

Korn's Brian “Head” Welch & Jennea Welch

At its core, the new eye-opening documentary, "Loud Krazy Love, "is a father-daughter story. Korn's Brian “Head” Welch & Jennea Welch opened up to us about their lives. (Photo Credit: JP Yim /BUILD )

Joe Levy, Sowmya Krishnamurthy & Kevan Kenney on BUILD Weekend Listen

What's the weekend out with good music? Our experts Kevan Kenney, Sowmya Krishnamurthy & Joe Levy shared what's worth listening to! (Photo Credit: BUILD /BUILD )

Kate Bosworth

Kate Bosworth sure knows how to take a picture! The stunning actress shared the process behind bringing her labor of love, "Nona," to the big screen. (Photo Credit: JP Yim /BUILD )

Jeremy O. Harris

We sat down with Jeremy O. Harris, the playwright behind "Slave Play." Watch our discussion on the deeply thought-provoking play critics and spectators have been raving about! (Photo Credit: BUILD /BUILD )

Greg Fleishman, Sarah Michelle Gellar & Galit Laibow of Foodstirs on BUILD Series

🗣 Calling all baked good lovers; we have the perfect BUILD for you! Watch Sarah Michelle Gellar, Greg Fleishman and Galit Laibow tell us all about their innovative business, Foodstirs. (Photo Credit: Noam Galai /BUILD )

Monét X Change, Latrice Royale, Trinity Taylor, Farrah Moan, Valentina, Monique Heart, Jasmine Masters, Naomi Smalls, Gia Gunn & Manila Luzon w/ Carson Kressley

One word: FABULOUS! 🤩 From positively using their platforms to their biggest competition on the show, we had a great time talking to the Season 4 queens of "Ru Paul's Drag Race All-Stars." (Photo Credit: Mike Pont /BUILD )

Jack Lowden, Joe Alwyn & Josie Rourke

History can be so fascinating! We discussed the new film, "Mary Queen of Scots," with stars Jack Lowden, Joe Alwyn and director Josie Rourke. (Photo Credit: JP Yim /BUILD )

Patrick Wilson, Amber Heard, Jason Momoa & James Wan

We were flooded with joy to talk to Aquaman himself! 😉 Don't miss the great time we had talking with Jason Momoa, his co-stars and director about the highly-anticipated DC film.

Julia Roberts & Lucas Hedges

THEE Julia Roberts & Lucas Hedges came by to talk about their touching new film, "Ben is Back." Be sure to tune in to our amazing conversation with the stars. (Photo Credit: Mike Pont /BUILD )

Jameer Pond, Lauren Moraski & Kevan Kenney

From Jay-Z's trending verse on Meek Mill's new album to 6ix9ine's legal troubles, our music experts Kevan Kenney, Lauren Moraski & Jameer Pond talked all things music! Tune in. (Photo Credit: Mike Pont /BUILD )

Dennis Quaid & Jamie James of Dennis Quaid and the Sharks

Dennis Quaid and Jamie James' excitement about their band's new album rubbed off on us! 😁 Be sure to check out our talk with the two. (Photo Credit: Jammi York /BUILD )

Tyra Banks

Now that's smising! 😉 We had a blast talking all things "Life-Size 2" with the always fabulous Tyra Banks, who served as star and executive producer on the Freeform movie. (Photo Credit: Jammi York /BUILD )

Stephan James, KiKi Layne & Barry Jenkins

From the director of "Moonlight" comes the new James Baldwin-adapted film, "If Beale Street Could Talk." Our deep conversation with Barry Jenkins, Stephan James and Kiki Layne is one you don't want to miss! (Photo Credit: Jammi York /BUILD )

Tim Meadows & Cristin Milioti

We had a fun time talking to "No Activity" stars Cristin Milioti and Tim Meadows. They shared what they like most about working on the CBS All Access series. (Photo Credit: Mike Pont /BUILD )

Laura Prepon

Not only is Laura Prepon a great actress, but she's a great cook too. We talked all about her new YouTube Channel, where she gives cooking tips, and, of course, "Orange is the New Black." (Photo Credit: Jammi York /BUILD )

Melissa Joan Hart

We always are up to chat with the lovely Melissa Joan Hart. Hear her thoughts on the new "Sabrina" series and her new Lifetime film, "A Very Nutty Christmas." (Photo Credit: Jammi York /BUILD )

Diego Luna

Diego Luna is quite the busy man! Tune in to our talk with the talented actor about his roles in Netflix's "Narcos: Mexico," the Oscar-contending "If Beale Street Could Talk" and more. (Photo Credit: Mike Pont /BUILD )

Patricia Heaton

'Tis the season to give! Hear why Patricia Heaton has teamed up with World Vision to help their great cause! (Photo Credit: Noam Galai /BUILD )

Alexander Dreymon

Season 3 of "The Last Kingdom" is finally on Netflix! From shooting fight scenes to analyzing his character, star Alexander Dreymon stopped by to talk about the show. (Photo Credit: Jammi York /BUILD )

Jack & Jack

Jack & Jack sure bring out a crowd, so I guess it's a great thing they're performing at the Macy's Thanksgiving Parade! 🤗 Find out what's next for the duo! (Photo Credit: Jammi York /BUILD )

Jesse Eisenberg, Matt Green & Jeremy Workman

Matt Green is a on a mission to walk every inch of New York City! Green, EP Jesse Eisenberg and director Jeremy Workman came to BUILD to tell his story. #Walkumentary ‍🚶 (Photo Credit: Jammi York /BUILD )

Tichina Arnold & Tisha Campbell

With their hilarity and infectious energy, you absolutely to have love these two ladies! If you want a good laugh, then tune in to our great time with Tichina Arnold & Tisha Campbell! (Photo Credit: Mike Pont /BUILD )

DCappella

We love Disney and we love Acapella, so you could imagine we were stoked to talk to DCappella and have them perform a few fan-favorite songs! (Photo Credit: Jammi York /BUILD )

Sarah Silverman

Funny and insightful, trust us when we say you should tune in to our chat with the hilarious Sarah Silverman about "Ralph Breaks the Internet" and "I Love You America." (Photo Credit: Noam Galai /BUILD )

Billy Corgan of The Smashing Pumpkins

We love Billy Corgan but his adorable son, Augustus, stole the show! 😫 Don't miss The Smashing Pumpkins member talk about his band's incredible journey, and Augustus play on stage.  (Photo Credit: Jammi York /BUILD )

Dan Fogler

If there's 1 thing you should do, it's check out our BUILD with Dan Fogler! We talked all things "Fantastic Beasts," from what it was like shooting the new film to what's next for the hit franchise. (Photo Credit: Jammi York /BUILD )

Bryce Segall, Chantal Rochelle & Kevan Kenney

What's #NewMusicFriday without having a panel of experts to break it down? Well, that's where Weekend Listen comes in. Tune in! (Photo Credit: Noam Galai /BUILD )

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